Download.torrent - 2006 FIFA World Cup - PC. Baker Batavia Leader 20 gauge with 28' barrels bored full and modified.This rare little gun is in 98% original condition with 99% vivid case . You may receive a 'B' with a different design of border or a duck or a dog in place of the two quail, or a dog pointing game, we cannot tell as it is our aim to give a variety of designs.'. The first of these would appear to be #228,165 issued to W H Baker for the forend fastener (J Spring) & the second to A C Mcfarland for the Rebounding Locks (trigger plate action). It does have the receiver and lock work of the Riverside Arms 315 which was a Stevens name, I think Stevens bought them in the mid 1910s. $ 449.00. 'The cut of the Baker hammerless gun as shown here was made from one of the regular 'B' grade guns picked from our stock on hand and is a fair sample of the engraving we put on these guns. I have 12 GAUGE PARKER DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN WITH HAMMERS. My research into the Baker is as faollows; A Grade 1892-1908 Three blade Damascus barrels, same engraving as B grade, better wood and finish B Grade 1892-1909 London twist, good line and scroll engraving with dog and bird on locks, better wood and finish than Leader model Paragon Grade 1894-1919 very fine Damascus or Krupp barrels, fine scroll and game scene engraving, best quality wood, checkering and finish, special order only Thank you for your information on the value and for taking the time to respond. These were well made fairly inexpensive shotguns selling for between $15 to $25 new. Each of their ads uses the company name and a representation of the firearm it is promoting. There is a half a sentence that eludes to higher priced guns built to special order. Support the site! Baker Gun Co Batavia Leader. This section covers the popular hammer and hammerless guns manufactured 1887-1919 by the Baker Gun & Forging Company, (founded by William H. Baker) in Syracuse and Batavia, NY and the H&D Folsom Arms Co. 1920-1930 in Norwich, CT. Hollenbeck had three patents granted while he was in Batavia and two are assigned to the Baker Gun & Forging Co. From your brief description it sounds like you have a Baker B-grade. It was this firm that produced the now famous Batavia Leader shotguns. I havent heard from him in years and havent seen the book anywhere so I guess that it has not been published. The only way to tell is to look at the barrels. The Baker/Batavia guns put out by H & D Folsom Arms Co. 1919 to 1929 were assembled at their factory in Norwich, Conn., aka Crescent Fire Arms Co. Baker named them homotensile steel to indicate they were homogeneous (one piece) tensile(strong). Chambers would have definitely been 2 5/8' Remember the early nitro powders 'white' did not create the higher pressures of todays duplex powders. Baker was ill with TB and they brought in Frank A. Hollenbeck as plant superintendent. wraped on a mandrel and forge welded? View more in our Baker Guns Price Guide. Also if you take it hunting and shoot at reasonble ranges, say 30 to 35 yards you'll find the game comes down just the same even without high velocity 1 1/4 loads. Estimated Value *Using 80% condition for calculating used Values. Baker designed and was associated with several pre-1900 double gun companies prior to 1900; and although I can't remember all the company associations, after selling his interest in one of those companies, he started a new company manufacturing his 'New Baker' model hammer gun (I think W.H. Smith as being the dominant partner as L.C. The Baker sidelock shotgun is considered to be one of America's Classic shotguns. Serial number E1754 (mfg. They state that they do not have any Paragon Grade guns in stock and all are made to order requiring 4 to 8 weeks. Unfortunately I think cowboy action shooting is going to cause a lot of otherwise nice Bakers to get chopped. Smith Maker of Baker Guns. After WW-I with the rise of repeaters Baker sold their gun business to H&D Folsom Co. A major marketer, manufacturer and importer of low priced guns. The Batavia guns were the low priced or "field grade" models of the Baker Gun & Forging Co. . The sidelock 'Black Beauty' replaced the Batavia Special, Leader, and Damascus guns about 1916. In 1888, after a large fire had destroyed the Syracuse factory, the Baker brothers moved their operations to Batavia, New York. Checkered pistol grip stock with grip cap and serrated H&R Arm Co. plastic buttplate. 1919 -1929) . Atlanta, Georgia 30328 | 877.481.5750, Relevant Firearms and Accessories Articles, Great Discoveries: Magnet Fisherman Finds Antique Gun, Collecting German World War II Infantry Weapons. Im an extreme newbie when it comes to knowledge but the shotgun looks to me to be in really nice condition with no scratches or dings on the stock, forearm or metal. The Batavia guns were the low priced or "field grade" models of the Baker Gun & Forging Co. To reduce costs the Batavia line did not have the "firing pin block safety" or the "draw block" which passes transversely through the barrel lug and mates into recesses in the frame, of the graded Baker hammerless guns and the Model 1897 hammer gun. The guns were developed in the 1960s by Robert Mainhardt and Art Biehl through their joint company MB Associates. In the very last Baker ads that I've found in old sporting magazines from April and May 1928, and October 1929, Folsom also offered a 410-bore Batavia Leader, though I've never seen one. Doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. Smith, Lefever, and the Winchester 21. Baker was dead before any of the sidelock hammerless Baker doubles built in Batavia saw the light of day. It is a bit aged. . Baker. No need to be fancy, just an overview. Folsom-made Baker guns normally have an F before or after the serial number. In 1874, Baker moved the company to Lisle, New York under the name W.H. Baker Gun & Forging Co. added a lower priced line of sidelocks called Batavia guns in 1903. Description: Very nice old (1913 to 1920) era double barrel shotgun 12 gauge. From 1919 to approximately 1923, Folsom continued to assemble and make Baker shotguns. I also originally thought this is an A grade, but wonder if it could be a Parigon. The Batavia guns were the low priced or 'field grade' models of the Baker Gun & Forging Co. To reduce costs the Batavia line did not have the 'firing pin block safety' or the 'draw block' which passes transversely through the barrel lug and mates into recesses in the frame, of the graded Baker hammerless guns and the Model 1897 hammer gun. In the very last Baker ads that I've found in old sporting magazines from April and May 1928, and October 1929, Folsom also offered a 410-bore Batavia Leader, though I've . Site Functions Useful Links Support the site Re: baker 12 gauge hammerless doublebarrel shotgun serial number Posted by Jon Williams on December 22, 2017, 5:42 pm, in reply to Re: baker 12 gauge hammerless doublebarrel shotgun serial number I have a baker double barrel but can not find any numbers on . If I wasn't a nice person I'd use the term 'gun snob'. Do a search for Baker Batavia Leader and you'll find quite a range of prices. The company was founded in Marathon, New York, under the name W.H. A NEW BAKER MODEl shotgun (an outside hammer type) was made by the Baker Gun And Forging Company of Syracuse New York (1887 to 1919) The BAKER NEW MODEL was made from 1887 to 1894 (I have serial number-year made tables for this gun). This gun has plenty of wear, and a light patina, and a few little rust spots in the one photo near the forearm. LSB#: 180131MG89 Make: Baker Gun Co., Made by H&D Folsom Model: Batavia Special Serial Number: 151325 Year of Manufacture: 1919-1930 (Folsom purchased Baker Gun & Forging in 1919 when "Baker Gun Co." began to be marked on the guns and the Baker Gun Co. was closed in 1930) Gauge: 12 Gauge, 2 1/2" Shells Action Type: Top Lever Opening Sidelock Double Barreled Shotgun These guns sold in substantial quantities (approx. For specifics on Copyright Law and please wait. Do a search for Baker Batavia Leader and you'll find quite a range of prices. Doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. About 1915 Baker Gun & Forging Co. Here is some information on both the A and B grade. Write something about yourself. William, unfortunately, was suffering from tuberculosis. The Baker Gun & Forging Co. Had a line of double barrel shotguns, sidelocks, called Batavia guns in 1903. The action retains 97% original case colors. In the very last Baker ads that Ive found in old sporting magazines from April and May 1928, and October 1929, Folsom also . 370,966 granted Oct. Does your gun have a serial number and if so what is it, including any prefixs. In the 6000 range A's and B's should be marked 'A' or 'B' in the serial number but 'should be' is not always true. Baker shotguns have in recent years become highly collectible. Baker Batavia LeaderComplete Restoration. In the 6000 range A's and B's should be marked 'A' or 'B' in the serial number but 'should be' is not always true. restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum. 190,000) and they attracted a strong and devoted following. Batavia, New York. When Folsom acquired Baker Gun the barrels were made Belgium however it is this piece of Baker Gun history I could have backwards, I need to check my reference material to be sure. Site Functions. The Batavia Leader number series were from 75,000 to about 106,000. . Smith Collectors Association who knew a great deal about Baker guns. Thank you for responding. I must be getting old. The shotgun features 2 3/4 inch chambers, chokes measure full/modified, with an extractor. If you would like to or nhl sabres. I am not an FFL or C+R, so FTF would be best. 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