They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. No more. Springfield makes decent guns but there are others out there. As the market changes so does our pricing. Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. I wont name them, but the sales people at certain companies worked hard (and maybe even fudged some dates on paperwork) to make sure that I got my magazines before the deadline in the law hit. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. So in a nutshell Ruger and Springfield are now on the list. He was busted before for bribing a Colonel on a Salvadorean arms deal. I own or have owned a number of AR's, including a couple of LaRue's, a KAC, a PWS and a POF. There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. If CTD notices panic buying, cancels prior sales and refunds them, so it can resell stuff that belonged to its customers, thats not their right. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. Because of rumors of canceled orders. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. thats what matter and they put that last. if you run a company and you dont know whats going on this is what you deserve. Rock River's LAR-458 is the top pick for hunters because of its value, excellent trigger and superb accuracy. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. Have been eyeballing the SA Saint the last couple weeks. You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. But thats only a fraction of his treachery. While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. If that hurts a company whos sold you out, good. Just keep in mind, if you have a dozen guns in your safe, I GUARANTEE you that at least one comes from a company whos compromised at some point. A Rock River two-stage match trigger or even a 3-pound single-stage trigger would be a recommended upgrade. Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out. The lobbying group in question received money from SA and RRA back in 2014. I had some AR parts on order a few days before Sands Hook. As an Illinois dealer, I will no longer stock, sell or support Rock River Arms or Springfield Armory products. With the Hillarys loss there is no longer a looming gun ban on the horizon and the firearm industry and market is facing a correction. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. Search Ruger anti gun. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. Didnt Smith and Wesson do the same thing back in the Clinton era, and it nearly bankrupted them, let alone took them years to reclaim the trust of the gun community. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. Rock River Arms had one seat. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. No other IL manufacturers donated, not Armalite, not DSA, nada. September 30, 2010 By Greg Rodriguez. I only want American Made firearms like Henry & Ruger. Other places have them for $200.00. It may not even pass the House. WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. Well, said. As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. Czech Republic makes good guns,like CZs. Bonus was it was stainless frame and made in the USA. Springfield could have fought thisor vocally opposed it on its way to potential passage. Cancelled orders? Should have just stuck to the point that hey, you can do anything you want to our dealers as long as you leave us out of it. An EMP 4 WAS the next scheduled buy.. not anymore, never again. How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? Specifications and Features: Rock River Arms AR-15 Magazine AR0116N30 .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO 30 Round Capacity Anti-Tilt Follower Proven Reliability is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. Nothing unethical about this practice. Rock River Arms is one of the largest manufacturers of AR-15 rifles in the United States. If youve already implemented them, great. An American didnt screw all other American gun-owners. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. Aluminum Mags Just Starting At $14.00 At Rock River Arms. Bullshit. Any combination of buying or selling that exceeds 9 is a crime if youre not a dealer. Theyve come to the heart of flyover country because they know their anti-2A dogwont hunt back in Washington. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? The owners at S&W that colluded with Clinton paid the price for it. Huh? Could be paperweights. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? Does anyone really buy RRAs BS, We didnt know? Two companies provide the bulk of the funding for IFMA:Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms. Im not selling it because of this cluster, but Im not buying from RRA again either. Springfields CEO on the other hand, either through stupidity, hamhandedness or outright lying has seriously damaged his company. As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. I wanted one with the threaded barrel and suppressor sights. Im a New Yorker. They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. ), I DO have a choice with firearms. Yuge. Your Price: $744.13. I have LOUDLY mentioned their treachery on the dozens of FB groups I belong to. IRS records have also been found that shows Reese is on the board of IFMA. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. Good for them, too. They hate this stuff because opponents can use it. cant hornor us people gun rights I say F THEM ALL. Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? Rock River LAR-8 .308. Same here. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! (This is in response to Mark). Henry and Ruger get my votes for Americas Gunmakers. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. Its not just selling, genius. Great grip and trigger. Im not ordering anything Springfield. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. They use forged parts and at least the Chinese are honest to let you know where the parts come from (China) whereas with Springfield it is a toss-up where the parts are made (I heard from Taiwan, Canada, even the Czech Republic!!). Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. I read somewhere that there is a city named Springfield in almost every state in the Union. So, S and W are also dead to me. After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. Half of those are national groups out of Washington, D.C., that have set up shop inSpringfield hotels. Out of stock. Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. Cant beat that! Typical narrow minded hypocrites. If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. Hugely disappointing. I would have called my lawyer, the NRA and a publicist. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. Screw that. If you want to scope your BM 59, there is a company that makes a direct over the bore scope kit for Garands that fits the BM59. This was a bit disingenuous because, basically, both companies were thats the one ive just stopped considering. Your Price: $744.13. Oh, hell no, he told me. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. We need more FFLs down here so there will be some competition. So I have to ask. RRA IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAN MAKE A RELIABLE AR-10. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. With an MSRP of $860, it is a capable rifle at great price point. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. This attention to accuracy is especially evident in Rock Rivers new model, the Advanced Tactical Hunter V2 (ATH V2). Hes hurt the small guys trying to kiss up to the big retailers here in Illinois. Who Makes Rock River Arms? +1, they are a bunch of liars praying on the ignorant. The firearms community will be better without them. Id say they are a step above most other production 1911s. The ATH V2 comes with an 18-inch, stainless steel, I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. An M1A was at the top of my wish list that I saving for. No further recommendation about the products will be made. It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. You can learn to make good parts on a CNC a lot faster than on a Bridgeport or SouthBend. So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. All have been accurate and reliable. Thanks a bunch pricks! Such a thing exists. It happens ALL THE TIME, and with companies much larger than RRA. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. Except they are both under different ownership today. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. Hindsight is always 20/20 and the Liberal Dems are always after our Firearms Freedoms. Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. How is it that they even survived to change in the first place? Good luck! Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins. That is sooo repetitious! Yes I am planning on moving. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. That was just a small part of the problem. (Im a 30 yr Vet). If they pull funding from the group well have some decent evidence that they didnt and dont support this carve out and are catching crap for something which they had no part in creating. I am sure you do not mean Nissan or Beretta both of which picked up and moved to Tennessee for their headquarters (as well as many other companies). Its a freakin disaster. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. His quote was basically the above damned if I do damned if I dont and that it wasnt worth the headache. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. Ive heard of them canceling orders. Very close to where I grew up. I have a Rock River PDS carbine. Gun owners have good memories, it will take a year but Springfield like Target will notice their mistake on their Revenue numbers and blame the weather, the president, insert excuse here. Meanwhile, theres another, ahem, firearm blog, that refuses to address the SA/RRA issue. They are a leader in the firearms field with a vast array of products that work correctly. For folks like me, it is no longer enough to be willing to fight and die for these rights, but to be willing to kill for them as well. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. They rebrand the HS2000 as the XD and jack up the price $200. If discounted to $0, maybe. Springfield Armory today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Hopefully this boycott will pass over with minimal job loss to the common machinist. Theyre both stuck now. Springfield cleaning to get the taint out of there. What gets me is there has been plenty of time and opportunity for damage control or to save face but they havent done anything to fix what theyve done. I fail to see how giving the box stores a leg up on the gun shops helps Rock River or Springfield Arms in any way. The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. The local ones are more like highway bandits than gun dealers. Bill may not have been perfect (who is), but his passion for firearms was solid and he was known as Americas Gunmaker, for good reasons. There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. When you sell high dollar items like firearms, it is really, really, unbelievably stupid, to piss off your customer base at rebate time. NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! Accurate and precise for Meaning they are NOT a legal lobbyist. The company was founded in 1996 by brothers Mark and Lynne Zanders. 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